Mark Sutcliffe (Trespass): How to leave footprints in the rock?


Trespass is the first band of all NWOBHM legends who has released a new album in 2018. This is also the first all-new album of the band since the album “Head” which came out 25 years ago (yeah-yeah, the 90’s were more that 10 years ago!). And  “Footprints In The Rock” rocks! Despite the drastic line-up change, Trespass with its founder Mark Sutcliffe have delivered the good! “Footprints On the Rock” has all the crucial points of the band from the 80’s with some new elements here and there. So we’ve contacted Trespass’ mastermind to discuss both the new album and old stories.  


The “Footprints In The Rock” is your first proper studio album with all new album in many years. Tell me a bit of its creation. Were you influenced by a warm response on the previous release?
The 2015 album went down well considering they were new versions of older songs like “One Of These Days” and “Stormchild”. To be honest I would have rather recorded brand new songs then but I could not get the other original members to agree.

The album has very contradictive and interesting title as you cant leave footprints in rocks. Can you comment on whats your idea with this title?  
Actually you can leave footprints in the rock. The idea came from both my love of dinosaurs and paleontology and my love of rock/metal music. They have found dinosaur footprints in the rock where what was a muddy shore where a creature walked has become rock over millions of years! I guess musicians leave their footprints in the “rock” also. A song or album that changes the course of rock and roll. I guess trespass have all bet it a small one!

The songs on the album are very diverse from melodic “Mighty Love” to very heavy “Be Brave” and proggy “Little Star”. Did you try to summarize everything that Trespass has been known for since the beginning?
I just tried to stay true to my own tastes really. I like a bit of diversity in an album. I think this is because I started to get into rock in the late 70’s when albums from rock bands tended to show a more diverse set of songs. I prefer slightly heavier stuff but with melody and light and shade.

Some of the songs are related to myths and epos stuff (“Beowulf And Grendel”, “Prometheus”). Was it dictated by the music or do they show your interest to historical themes? 
I love history and the myths and legends. I am also a big science fiction fan! I do enjoy creating a picture not only with the lyrics but the music too! I would love to get into film music!

Can you also explain your ideas (both musical and lyrical) in the songs “Weed”, “Green Man” and “Music Of The Waves”?
“Weed” is an anti drug song but also anti hate and aggression. The weed growing in the garden of your mind is choking off new ideas and ways of thinking. I don’t mind people taking drugs as long as it does not interfere with the music.
“Green Man” was a story inspired by our drummer Jason. He was telling me about the legend of the green man which dates back to pre-Christian times. He is the spirit of the forest. It is also a reference to the people and scientists warning us that we are destroying our beautiful planet. If we don’t start listening soon it will be too late!
“Music Of The Waves” is a reminder that the human race are just passing through. I wrote it on the beach in Kos, Greece. I was letting the sand run through my fingers and thinking. ‘This was a mountain once’ The earth was here long before we came and will be here long after we have gone.

A lot of the songs off the album were played before you recorded them. Did you take into account reaction from fans on the songs?
Yes where possible. I write from the heart so I guess not everyone can like everything.


The new album was recorded with the new line-up. Firstly, why did Dave Crawte and all others leave? Did you ever think of calling it quits after that?
Not for a second. Trespass is something I really believe in, and is the vehicle that allows me to share my music with the world. I wish I had not let myself be distracted by other projects and name changes and had ‘stuck to my guns!!’ As for the others time moves on and everyone had other things they wanted to do that were more important to them I guess.


Danny B. is the most well known guy among the new members. How did you get to know him? Isn’t it a problem that he also plays with bands like Anihilated, Criminal, Pentagram Chile and more?
I got to know Dan when we used his studio. He is a great guy of many talents. He can’t help being so popular!

Please introduce Jason Roberts and Joe Fawcett. How substantial was their contribution to the songwriting process?
I have been working on and off with Jason on various projects going back decades. He is a great solid drummer and a great solid bloke! I have known Joe since he was a child as his parents ran a music store in my home town. He is such a talented guitarist and writer. We will be writing together for any further albums we record. The guys helped me to fulfill my dream of a Trespass studio album that truly reflected my style and passion. I cannot thank them enough.

How did you get a deal with Mighty Music?
Joe had had dealing with them in the past and said they were a good label. They have been most supportive. To Trespass and to music in general.

It seems that NWOBHM-related bands still have a lot of loyal followers but big time magazines tend to ignore such bands. Do you care at all about it?
No, At the end of the day it is the fans that matter. As soon as you start making music to please the ‘industry’ you’ve had it.

James Hetfield wears Trespass patch on his denim vest. Does it mean that much for you and does it help you to get some new fans?
I have met James several times. He is a great guy and extremely talented. The thought that Trespass music influenced a colossus like Metallica at all fills me with pride. I hope everyone will give us a listen.

Do you keep an eye on young and upcoming bands from the UK? Which bands deserve to be heard in your opinion?
I can’t say I do. I am too set in my ways I guess. I should do more to encourage new bands though and so should the industry in general.

Lets get back to the time when you decided to be a guitar player. I believe it was your father Alan who encouraged you and your brother Paul to become musicians. Tell me a bit of your father and his role as a manager of Trespass.
My Father Allan was so supportive of our music. He made me a triangular guitar when I was a kid! It wasn’t until I started work aged 16 that I got my first real guitar. I realized pretty soon that something fundamental had happened in my life. Eventually Paul took up the drums. Dad bought him a drum kit and off we went! Dad drove us all over the country lugging amps and gear around. My poor Mum was left behind! She probably enjoyed the peace and quiet! When Dad died suddenly in 1982 our world was ripped apart.

Tell me please the story behind the name Trespass. Was it influenced by the same-titled album of Genesis?
Paul was a big Genesis fan. Me less so. The name did come from the Genesis album.

How did you end up having two songs on the “Metal For Muthas Vol. II” compilation? Why didn’tt you capitalize something more off it (like a record deal with EMI or other major label)?
We had two tracks on Vol II.: “Stormchild” and “One Of These Days”. Iron Maiden had had two tracks on Vol I. As you can imagine we thought we were going places with EMI. We did a session for them at the EMI studios in London. EMI was going through a lot of personnel changes at the time but basically they wanted to concentrate on Maiden I think. Who knows what would have happened if we had put out an album in 1981??

Whats the story with the bootlegged cassette album?
We helped to create the demand for that bootleg as we, (and the people around us) were stupid and short sighted not to release an album on our own label if necessary. That is common now but not so back then.


How do you view the album “Head” these days? Do you think it was underrated at the time it came out?
“Head” had some good songs on it which I am proud of. I think it was a musical reaction to the more commercial stuff we had, with hindsight mistakenly done with Blue Blud. It came out very dark sounding. We will be playing some of those songs live though!

You played at Wacken Open Air back in the 90s. Would you say it was your biggest gig ever? What other live shows you can mark as big, important or memorable?
That was probably the biggest! The concert in Tokyo in 1999 was fantastic. And, the shows at the Marquee club in London in 1980!!


Do you still stay in touch with Robert Eckland and other old members? Sorry for asking but I heard that some of your ex-bandmates committed suicide. Is it really like that?
I occasionally hear from old members. Bob Irving did tragically take his own life. He was a talented and gentle soul and I will always miss him.

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I just want to say thanks form my heart to anyone and everyone who has bought an album or merch or come to a Trespass show. You’re helping to keep the music alive!! See you out there in 2018/19.


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